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Awesome show!! Unfortunately, we missed Universal Measure. Lesson in Chaos did a great job. Of course S2C shredded, even when Scotty's bass went out (you should have seen the look on his face). LA Guns sounded pretty good, but we didn't stay for the whole set. If you weren't there, you missed a really good show.

S2C is one of those bands where you always know what you're getting... a dealer you can trust, if you will.

I'm sure they kicked all sorts of ass up and down the blizzock.

Blake NWR wrote:S2C is one of those bands where you always know what you're getting... a dealer you can trust, if you will.

I'm sure they kicked all sorts of ass up and down the blizzock.

*laugh* thanks dude!

This actually turned out to be quite a fun gig. UM was awesome, especially Windy's quick rant about National's and leaving their set on the drum riser (I almost fell over laughing it was so awesome).

We had a great time, and thank you to everyone who made it out. Familiar faces and some new ones (I think I finally met Vish!), with most cramming into our practice space

Good times, even for this easily bored little sober guy.

Scott (S2C) wrote:*laugh* thanks dude!

This actually turned out to be quite a fun gig. UM was awesome, especially Windy's quick rant about National's and leaving their set on the drum riser (I almost fell over laughing it was so awesome).

Yeah, I'm sure the room was packed to see UM be able to use the drum riser.

hodgy wrote:Yeah, I'm sure the room was packed to see UM be able to use the drum riser.

I prefer to actually have the room to put on a show. I had to communicate with Allen via smoke signals.

Scott (S2C) wrote:I prefer to actually have the room to put on a show. I had to communicate with Allen via smoke signals.

That was pretty awesome!! I especially loved the part when you guys knocked over part of Jason's kit and his tech had to get on stage to fix it.

wadruid wrote:Awesome show!! Unfortunately, we missed Universal Measure. Lesson in Chaos did a great job. Of course S2C shredded, even when Scotty's bass went out (you should have seen the look on his face). LA Guns sounded pretty good, but we didn't stay for the whole set. If you weren't there, you missed a really good show.

I can't thank you enough for coming out and supporting us dude. All the peeps that showed up, it was just awesome! It was even sweeter when it started filtering out so heavily during LA Guns. Phenomenal night for sure! Much luv!:metalhead

Scott (S2C) wrote:I prefer to actually have the room to put on a show. I had to communicate with Allen via smoke signals.

Shit, I thought it was telepathy.

hodgy wrote:Shit, I thought it was telepathy.

His hair messes up the signal, kindof like going through a tunnel on your cell.

hodgy wrote:Yeah, I'm sure the room was packed to see UM be able to use the drum riser.

Oh, But the room was just crammed for LA GUNS.... We were so lucky! God I feel blessed! THEY WEREN"T EVEN THEIR DRUMS!! THEY WERE WILLIS' DRUMS!! Fucking bands (especially ones the backslide) need to think about the show as a whole and stop being so fucking LAZY! You're not at the fucking Paramount. There isn't room for that shit! If my drummer is ever fucking selfish and lazy enough to pull that shit I will quit the band right then and there. I know I am not alone on this pet peeve. I just might be a bit more.... passionate... about it.

We opened for Testament in California a few years back at a sports bar (a big one, but still). This was when I was still doing percussion in the back, and I remember my arms kept hitting Paul Bostaph's cymbals. We were lined up like a fucking chorus line in front of the drums 'cause there was no room.

Sadly, it's the way national headliners roll most of the time, no matter the venue size.

GIZMO wrote:Oh, But the room was just crammed for LA GUNS.... We were so lucky! God I feel blessed! THEY WEREN"T EVEN THEIR DRUMS!! THEY WERE WILLIS' DRUMS!! Fucking bands (especially ones the backslide) need to think about the show as a whole and stop being so fucking LAZY! You're not at the fucking Paramount. There isn't room for that shit! If my drummer is ever fucking selfish and lazy enough to pull that shit I will quit the band right then and there. I know I am not alone on this pet peeve. I just might be a bit more.... passionate... about it.

I've done my share of national shows. I feel lucky for having done so. You will not hear me bitch about how much room I've got on stage, because I understand the business and that's the way it is. The national acts that roll through town have done more than I've ever done, more than you've ever done, and way more than 99.9% of the bands in this town will ever do. They've logged the miles on the road, they've done the time, they've paid their dues. They've sold a couple of records. They've earned the right to put the drum kit wherever the fuck they want to. They are there to put on a show, too. I can appreciate your 'passion' about this 'peeve', but until you've done what these touring bands have done for the past 20 years (in LA Guns' case) and continue to do, maybe it's time to wake up and look around. The only reason you're getting these opportunities to do these bigger shows is because of where you practice.
If your music can't reach the audience because of the drum set in your way, then maybe it is time to quit.

hodgy wrote:I've done my share of national shows. I feel lucky for having done so. You will not hear me bitch about how much room I've got on stage, because I understand the business and that's the way it is. The national acts that roll through town have done more than I've ever done, more than you've ever done, and way more than 99.9% of the bands in this town will ever do. They've logged the miles on the road, they've done the time, they've paid their dues. They've sold a couple of records. They've earned the right to put the drum kit wherever the fuck they want to. They are there to put on a show, too. I can appreciate your 'passion' about this 'peeve', but until you've done what these touring bands have done for the past 20 years (in LA Guns' case) and continue to do, maybe it's time to wake up and look around. The only reason you're getting these opportunities to do these bigger shows is because of where you practice.
If your music can't reach the audience because of the drum set in your way, then maybe it is time to quit.

And this sums up what is wrong with this scene. Most bands are so quick to sling arrows at other bands for what they're doing. Its sad that our scene is about tearing down bands way more than building them up. Was I there that night? No. But I’ve seen UM and S2C countless times and I’m surprised anyone would say practicing at studio7 is all they have going for them.

I don’t buy the “that’s the way it is” argument. Alot of things used to be done one way and now they’re not. Maybe, just maybe, you should wake up and look around and see that the music business isn’t what it once was. I’m sure someone of your extreme intelligence already knew that, but its still worth pointing out. If you want shows so bad with national acts that its eating away at you, why don’t you move on in to studio7 and see how far that gets you?

Oh by the way; Happy Birthday!:cheers:

Mr. Burns wrote:And this sums up what is wrong with this scene. Most bands are so quick to sling arrows at other bands for what they're doing. Its sad that our scene is about tearing down bands way more than building them up. Was I there that night? No. But I’ve seen UM and S2C countless times and I’m surprised anyone would say practicing at studio7 is all they have going for them.

I don’t buy the “that’s the way it is” argument. Alot of things used to be done one way and now they’re not. Maybe, just maybe, you should wake up and look around and see that the music business isn’t what it once was. I’m sure someone of your extreme intelligence already knew that, but its still worth pointing out. If you want shows so bad with national acts that its eating away at you, why don’t you move on in to studio7 and see how far that gets you?

1. As someone who has practiced at Studio 7 with one of my bands I can tell you that it helps simply because your more apt to run into Tracy or be on the radar because you do practice there. In no way does this take away from how "talented" or not the bands are. It just helps to have a presence there. If you check the line ups I bet you would find a larger percentage of in house bands opening for nationals more often.
2. Criticism or "tearing bands down" is not what is wrong with the scene. We could all hold hands, suck each other off and sing Koom by Ya if you want but a little healthy competition never hurt anything. I don't want to be in a place where everybody tells me everything I do is great. When thats the case you get complacent and settle for mediocrity which a lot of bands have done in this town. If your too thin skinned to take some criticism from other people you're in the wrong business. In my opinion, half the bands in this town could be eliminated and there would still be 500 too many shitty bands. It's the people that tell you your good and then talk shit when your not around. Thats whats wrong with the scene.
3. Next time your opening for a national and they leave their shit set up on stage, go whine to the band and the owner and see how fast they change things. It is one of those things that will never chance. If you think you can change it because the "music business has changed" then be my guest.and good luck. I'm sure they'll cater to you right away.
Some people forget that it's a pleasure to play for people regardless of the conditions. I've been in this same situation a few times and you just play the hand your dealt and get it done.In my opinion, bitching about a rockstar move when your a local is more rockstar mentality than the rockstar move itself. Suck it up and play. If your that good then people will notice weather you have 2 foot of stage or 200.
Let the games begin!

Mr. Burns wrote: I’m surprised anyone would say practicing at studio7 is all they have going for them.

That is not what I said. Let me use my band The Braindead as an example:

Number of times we played at Studio 7 before we started practicing there: 0
(OK, granted, we were one of the first bands to move in when it first opened, but still)
Number of times we played S7 After we started practicing there: Shit-tons.
Number of times we've played S7 in the several years since we stopped practicing there: 1

This is true of every band that practices there or has practiced there, from MTF to Drown Mary, and yes, it is true of S2C (who I love, by the way), and of UM, (who I was not slinging arrows at, just pointing out the fact that when they've been together for 20 years, toured the world, had videos on MTV, etc., etc., I'll bet you any amount of money that they'd be seeing things goddamn differently).

And by the way, Thanks!

One more thing: I can sum up EXACTLY what's wrong with the scene:
99% of the bands FUCKING SUCK.

hodgy wrote:One more thing: I can sum up EXACTLY what's wrong with the scene:
99% of the bands FUCKING SUCK.

I'm actually very impressed, you could’ve torn me apart with all sorts of insults. It would’ve accomplished nothing, but you could’ve and for not doing it, my hats off to you sir. And I agree, Seattle is swimming in sub par bands. It just came across that you were bashing a band for where they practice of all things. I know how hard both bands work as alot of bands do as well, I just believe there is a little more to it than practicing addresses. Never mind a few bands that practice there, that will probably never play there.

hodgy wrote:One more thing: I can sum up EXACTLY what's wrong with the scene:
99% of the bands FUCKING SUCK.

Damnit hodgy quit being so negative only 98% of the bands suck.

Mr. Burns wrote:I'm actually very impressed, you could’ve torn me apart with all sorts of insults. It would’ve accomplished nothing, but you could’ve and for not doing it, my hats off to you sir. And I agree, Seattle is swimming in sub par bands. It just came across that you were bashing a band for where they practice of all things. I know how hard both bands work as alot of bands do as well, I just believe there is a little more to it than practicing addresses. Never mind a few bands that practice there, that will probably never play there.

Here's an insult for ya- your reading comprehension is not very good at all.

I have no problem not having the riser. I felt bad that my kit was the great divide between Scott and Mike on one side and Allen on the other, but we made it work and I personally had a blast (Thank you to everyone who came out)! Sure, I prefer more space and it frees up the stage for everyone to put on a better show, but you work with what you're given. That said, I still thought Windy's statement on stage was funny as hell! The whole time I was just thinking "man, at least its not the show we played with a certain national in the south end who left their kit up on a certain T shaped stage" (At that point the guys were actually jumping gaps to go from side to side or walking behind mine AND the national's drummer's kit.)

My ever so opinionated take is some of these guys have definitely paid the dues, put in the time, gotten the notoriety, and deserve to leave their kits wherever the hell they want to without question... the others are just douchebags who live like its decades ago, think they're your deity of choice's gift to the music industry, and will still leave their kit wherever they want to. So sometimes its better to go with it and avoid the headache.

No worries, I just put in an order for two "red carpet Axle Rose ego" ramps that can attach to any stage (stage must be at least 1.67 feet high and nine point three quarters max height).
I gotta tell ya, I was so tempted to go up and play them during our set, a Jason and Mike drum solo. I wasn't going to do it, but looking at the empty kit kept putting the thought in my mind.
I had a great time and thanks for everyone who was there for being part of the party